all fair points gadge.
and what i meant for market garden weren't m3's issued rather than thompsons because of the recource costs?
Now a 'namsofter. I have an M72 L.A.W. for sale for 110 posted, PM if interested.
They didn't completely replace all of the thompsons with grease guns, only small numbers were available until 45 really. Having a grease gun wouldn't be wrong for Market garden onwards, however a Normandy impression, you'd struggle.
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Cool, I'm totally not having a pop at you btw Tom, your kit is blindingly good compared to what i started off with for WWII (and when i was your age i was paintballing in dpm with wwii us webbing over the top!).
I just think you guys do a really good job now and you all seem pretty cool about tightening up that impression when given good evidence to look at, which again is a pretty good attitude.
Thats why I'm honestly asking about the helmet markings thing, cos I know a lot of them come pre marked like that but if you're doing shows like bushy shoudl you not be thinking about marking them correctly as a unit - be easier if you get one stencil for the lot of you.
BTW I cant recommend this book highly enough
Sant Mere Eglise - Photogrpahs of D-day by Michael De Trez (D-day publishing)
Not only is it packed wiht period pics of the 101st and 82nd in Normandy but it also has lots of colour pics of the original kit worn by some of the main men.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
PM me if you'd like to.
Ah but regarding the first aid kit we were actually talking about Kraut's kit not Tom's and following the conversation regarding matching insignia on helmet and jacket, I know that, that is Tom's spare 42's with the 82nd patch on and besides that it was only an open day. In most cases you could go to an Open day wearing a variety of WW2 kit and get away with what ever you like!
I know you're not having a go haha, and I for one like trying make my kit as authentic as possible (with a few bits which are possibly a bit dubious but not totally wrong, my helmet net to start off with.)
Personally I think you guys have come on leaps and bounds and look top notch as far as I can tell as a layman on US kit.
I appreciate the compliment as I'm sure the rest of Dog Company do too! Not wishing to bring up old issues but it means even more coming for you mate and I mean that in the nicest way.
We do tend to attempt to be as accurate as possible in the way we wear and use or gear and a lot of our kit is original or exceptionally good reproductions, however anybody who wishes to be involved with Dog Company is expected to progressively improve their kit.
I'd like to feature you guys in AI at some point if you're interested.
I'll mention it to the guys, we're always up for some publicity, we currently have some members taking part in some filming and are all looking forward to the Bushey event for anyone who is going...it's actually a shame that noone is interested in being part of the Dog Co section on here haha...can't blame them in a way it's not particularly interesting.
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Nice job on the lid
Is it me or are your chevrons lifting up on the edge?
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
what i meant for market garden weren't m3's issued rather than thompsons because of the recource costs?
Normandy Vets kept their Thompsons, 'the new guys' got M3A1's instead because they were more cost effective and at that time Thompson production had been reduced in favour of this new SMG which was cheaper and easier to produce.
They didn't completely replace all of the thompsons with grease guns, only small numbers were available until 45 really. Having a grease gun wouldn't be wrong for Market garden onwards, however a Normandy impression.
No, Grease gun would be totally wrong for a Normandy impression...it wasn't distributed at the time of the landings...
@Angel: Maybe a little bit of greased brown hessian scrim on your Helmet. I've yet to grease mine but it's my next job. If not hessian then I also use off cuts of horse hair blanket which look good with the hessian.
Show me a man who will jump out of an airplane, and I'll show you a man who will fight!
General James M. Gavin
CRY HAVOC AND LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR
have to disagreee there mate.
Photo taken of the 505th in Normandy on D-day itself shows Capt Patrick Gibbons with a grease gun on the table in front of him.
(de trez (again) page 232
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
what i meant for market garden weren't m3's issued rather than thompsons because of the recource costs?
Normandy Vets kept their Thompsons, 'the new guys' got M3A1's instead because they were more cost effective and at that time Thompson production had been reduced in favour of this new SMG which was cheaper and easier to produce.
Its also shedloads lighter than a thompson which to a soldier, especially an airborne one, is a major factor. I can only think the Capt in my earlier post chose to take one instead of a thompson for weight reasons?
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
@Angel: Maybe a little bit of greased brown hessian scrim on your Helmet. I've yet to grease mine but it's my next job. If not hessian then I also use off cuts of horse hair blanket which look good with the hessian.
Yep, a little garnish is still needed. Forgive my ignorance, but why greased?
It's not absolutely necessary to grease them and it does make a bloody mess but they stick to the helmet and are easier to twist and manipulate around the weave of the helmet net...it's also more authentic.
Show me a man who will jump out of an airplane, and I'll show you a man who will fight!
General James M. Gavin
CRY HAVOC AND LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR
Its also shedloads lighter than a thompson which to a soldier, especially an airborne one, is a major factor. I can only think the Capt in my earlier post chose to take one instead of a thompson for weight reasons?
Very possible...think you just need to scan the whole book in Gadge haha Although there definately wasn't mass availability...
Show me a man who will jump out of an airplane, and I'll show you a man who will fight!
General James M. Gavin
CRY HAVOC AND LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR
Guys, sorry to rain on a lively and interesting discussion but, could you take this to another thread please? This is a kit picture thread after all! Cheers.
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@ Angel, that third photo of you sat at the base of the tree, is fantastic. You can't fake the exhausted battle weary look that you get from skirmishing in the pouring rain all day.
Here's me at Operation Freshman (Royal engineer, Airborne)
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Your kit looked fine
and now I know who you are
Yup all the engineers looked awesome.
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Here you go, i did a quick 'commando raider' impression. Mid to late war.
Denim battledress (as worn on the dieppe raid), cap comforter, 'water wings' life vest, 37 pat webbing, sten gun (although a 1928 thompson is more apt).
Really i should have plimsoles and an FS knife as well but i dont own either!
"I think we are in rats' alley - Where the dead men lost their bones."
Excellent and professional pics as ever Gadge, but that looks bloody cold in the last photo!
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This is my GPW Soviet Rifleman impression, late war battle load. Any tips or corrections to perfect this would be welcome.
Kits list:
gymnastiorka 1943 type shirt + late war telogreika padded jacket.
sharovari riding breeches type trousers.
austerity measures canvas and leather belt + PPsh and grenade pouches + canteen.
cape/shelter half worn bedroll fashion.
1940 type helmet.
WW2 cut Pilotka with painted badge.
kirozoviy sapogi boots (not GPW, 1970's dated)
Gask Mask Satchel (unfortunately a 1970's model with the side pocket)
Hexagon PPsh41
"There is many a boy here today who looks on war as all glory, but, boys, it is all hell."
General William Tecumseh Sherman
You look like Chris Moyles wearing Russian Army gear...
Show me a man who will jump out of an airplane, and I'll show you a man who will fight!
General James M. Gavin
CRY HAVOC AND LET LOOSE THE DOGS OF WAR
Looks great beastor
Really digging the background used for the shots as well!
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